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Subject: Did an Israeli Tech Firm Have a 2-Hour Warning of WTC Attack?
Date: 2001-10-01 20:52:02 PST Via NY Transfer News * All the News That
Doesn't Fit
The real news is buried in the middle of the article under the heading
"Instant-Message Warnings."
So far, we have only seen this report on NewsFactor; it has not been
published elsewhere that we have found. IF THIS IS TRUE, and not just more
rumor and smoke, it would certainly explain the FBI arrests of Israelis
in New Jersey. If this is an accurate report, the US's peerless "intelligence"
and law enforcement agencies are probably scrambling around right now,
very quietly looking into possible false-flag recruitment by the Mossad
for an operation whose timing even they could not predict with absolute
certainty. ] source - NewsFactor, September 27, 2001 (via Yahoo) or: Senator
Wants National Guard-type IT Corps; IM Firm Says It Was Warned of Attacks
By Jay Lyman, www.NewsFactor.com Citing the severe stress on the nation's
communications and technology infrastructure brought by the September 11th
terrorist attacks, U.S. Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) is proposing a National
Guard-style corps of volunteer information-technology professionals and
equipment to be ready for trouble. Wyden, chairman of the Senate Subcommittee
on Science, Technology and Space, announced his proposed tech corps on
the Senate floor Wednesday and is planning to meet with government agencies
and technology firms next week to promote the idea. "As we seek to prevent
future disasters, we must still prepare to meet them," Wyden told the other
senators. "I believe the technology professionals of this nation, like
all Americans, are ready to answer the call and do their part," Wyden said.
"The formation of a National Emergency Technology Guard will give them
that chance and ensure greater safety and stability for our communities
and our citizens in the coming days."
*******************************************************************
Instant-Message Warnings
************************
While Wyden's proposed technology corps will focus on dealing
with a natural disaster or attack after it happens, executives at Odigo,
an instant messaging company in Israel, said that there was advanced warning
of the recent terrorist attacks via IMs to employees. Odigo vice president
of marketing Alex Diamandis told NewsFactor that two people at Odigo's
Israeli offices received instant messages regarding the attacks about two
hours before they happened. While Diamandis said he could not discuss the
nature or content of the messages, Diamandis said that Israeli and U.S.
officials were notified and that investigators interviewed Odigo employees
a day or two after the attacks. ********************************************************************
Crippling Effect Meanwhile, Wyden, who has planned hearings on the matter
for the science subcommittee next week, said the September 11th attacks
on U.S. airliners and landmarks "severely challenged" the communications
infrastructure of New York, Washington, D.C., and the rest of the country.
"Wireless telephone networks were severely overloaded and crashed," Wyden
said. "Wireless Internet access was suspended. Telephone lines were cut
and communications for people literally in communities around the East
Coast of the United States came to a standstill." Wyden added: "Even immediate
communications needs of rescue workers, victims, families and aid groups
were a struggle to coordinate. The New York Times drew a conclusion that
I strongly agree with: there need to be new ways to set up emergency information
systems." Bolstering Tech Readiness Wyden spokeswoman Lisa Raasch told
NewsFactor Network the idea is still being fleshed out, but that the senator
had already met with some heads of the high-tech industry, adding that
she understood the idea had been "quite well received." "The idea is that
especially when communication is critical to rescue and response, we should
make sure there is a reliable backbone and infrastructure there so the
important things that need to be done, can be done," Raasch said. A statement
from Wyden said a national volunteer organization of trained and well-coordinated
units of IT professionals from leading technology companies ought to be
in a position to stand ready with designated computers, satellite dishes,
wireless communicators and other equipment to quickly re-create and repair
compromised communications and technology infrastructures. Calling on Companies
Raasch told NewsFactor that Wyden planned to meet with a number of companies
including Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT - news) and AOL (NYSE: AOL - news) to
recruit support for the National Emergency Technology (NET) Guard. "It
is a volunteer notion in as much as companies would be asked to provide
resources both in equipment and personnel," she said. Wyden's proposal
comes as a number of security experts, federal officials and lawmakers
warn that the U.S. and its infrastructure are not prepared for a cyber
attack. Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) technology group director
Rich Pethia testified Wednesday before U.S. House committee members, telling
them the spread of the Nimda computer virus demonstrates how vulnerable
the Internet and technology infrastructure is to attack. Don't know if
these are real... found them on the net... but it sure do give ya da creeps.
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to
restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true
if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real
or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all
peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from
this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented
with this scenarios, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for
the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
--Henry Kissinger, May 21, 1992. "We are grateful to the Washington Post,
the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors
have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for
almost forty years." He went on to explain: "It would have been impossible
for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the
lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated
and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty
of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the
national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." --David Rockefeller
speaking at the June 1991 Bilderberg meeting in Baden Baden, Germany (a
meeting also attended by Bill Clinton and Dan Quayle). From: All The News
That Doesn't Fit (NY-Transfer-News@blythe.org ) Subject: The "Forces of
Recession" Did It! Newsgroups: alt.activism , alt.politics , alt.politics.bush
, alt.politics.usa.republican , alt.war View: (This is the only article
in this thread) | Original Format Date: 2001-10-02 19:45:05 PST The "Forces
of Recession" Did It! Via NY Transfer News * All the News That Doesn't
Fit NOW, IT CAN BE TOLD: THE "FORCES OF RECESSION" DID IT!! (Comedy Column
from the Washington Post) [All by his little self, this Wisdom-of-the-Market-eer
has discovered the true culprits! No, it was not Osama bin Laden, Ariel
Sharon or his Mossad goons, or even the puppeteers pulling Georgie Shrub's
strings. No, it was... the "Forces of Recession" (a previously unknown
terrorist group)-- who have not even taken credit for the amazing military
strikes of September 11! BRILLIANT sleuthing, Sebastian. Let's show those
Forces of Recession! Let's go BUY STUFF ON CREDIT! Yeah... That'll show
'em. Note to the cautious with a left-over capacity for critical thought:
do not delve too deeply into this crank's delusion that One Trillian yankee
dineros wiped out on September 11 represent "savings" -- do not say to
him, "That was a pipe dream bubble, Sebastian." The guy needs a job, and
those are rapidly evaporating, especially at his salary level (not counting
stock options -- part of the "savings" he must have just seen blown to
smithereens.) Let him down easy. he still believes in The Wisdom of the
Market. Kind of like believeing in the Tooth Fairy. Or the alleged God.
Average humans with red suspenders can only take so much trauma at one
time. Let him down easy.--NY Transfer News, half a mile from, and downwind
of, Ground Zero where it's STILL BURNING!] Washington Post - October 1,
2001 Recession and The Fear Factor By Sebastian Mallaby In ordinary times,
there would be no point in asking President Bush to undo part of his tax
cut, which stands as his central political achievement. Nor would it be
right to ask that he rein in his Treasury secretary, whose forthright manner
he values. But these are not ordinary times. The terrorist attacks have
harmed the economy in ways that demand unusual remedies. The war against
recession, more than the war on terrorism, is psychological. The forces
of recession lurk in the shadows. They mount brief, spectacular attacks
on our society -- wiping out $1 trillion of savings in the stock market,
thrusting more than 100,000 airline workers out of their jobs. But mostly
the forces of recession seek to frighten us. If they can destroy our confidence,
scare us into spending and investing less, then they will succeed in upsetting
our prosperity. This psychological struggle transcends the headline arguments
about the economy -- about the design of the airline bailout or the content
of the stimulus package. To be sure, helping people feel safe in the air
is a key to boosting confidence, and a fiscal stimulus is a good idea too.
But a stimulus of $100 billion, the amount that Congress now contemplates,
could turn out to be peanuts next to terror-induced swings in public sentiment.
Consider first the psychology of consumers. Families that own stock have
lost a chunk of savings, which will make them less inclined to spend. Others
may feel vulnerable to job losses and decide to start saving. This points
to a reversal of the trend that saw the household savings rate fall from
7.8 percent in 1988 to 1.1 percent earlier this year. If the savings rate
recouped just half that decline, annual spending would collapse by something
like $240 billion -- swamping the $100 billion stimulus that Congress plans.
Then there is the psychology of businesses, whose investment spending also
influences the strength of the economy. Executives are canceling sales
trips or enduring two-hour waits at airports. Their assistants are missing
phone calls as they abandon their desks to escort visitors from the expensive
new security detail camped out in the lobby. Their supplies have been held
up by new checks on the Canadian border. Their insurers are yanking terrorism
coverage for their buildings. Everything seems uncertain. Unless something
can be done to bolster their confidence, businesses will delay investment
and so compound the likely decline in consumption. If the war over the
economy is primarily psychological, what else follows? The new conventional
wisdom -- that we have returned to an era of big-government activism --
should be treated cautiously. Government may be throwing money at the airlines,
but their fate will be determined by the psychology of travelers who will
choose whether to fly. Congress may be working on a stimulus, but this
may be swamped by a decline in consumer confidence. The new government
activism is less striking than the limits to what it can achieve. Moreover,
because
government's power is limited, its efforts to shape public sentiment are
all-important. Bush has tried to bolster confidence by urging Americans
to return to life as usual, by making a big point of going out to a Tex-Mex
restaurant, by sending his transportation secretary on a commercial flight
to Chicago. But he could do more than that in two areas. First, Bush needs
to recognize that one reason why financial markets are wobbly -- and therefore
why consumers and investors are skittish -- is that his huge 10-year tax
cut has made the long-term budget outlook worrying. The fear that inflation
may return toward the end of this decade pushes up long-term interest rates,
which contribute to stock market weakness. By proposing a slower phase-in
of the tax cuts, the Bush administration could fix this problem. At a time
when a fiscal stimulus and other policy levers seem uncertain, it would
be folly not to grab this opportunity to bolster markets and hence confidence.
Second, Bush needs to recognize that, because public psychology is all-important,
the reputation of his senior officials is crucial. Alan Greenspan, the
Fed chairman, has a reputation so exalted that his mere presence at the
central bank boosts public confidence. But Paul O'Neill, the Treasury secretary,
is something of an anti-Greenspan. He has made a series of wild remarks
on subjects ranging from the dollar to Argentina and recently the stock
market. When Wall Street reopened a fortnight ago, O'Neill declared that
the market would be approaching all-time highs in the next 12 to 18 months.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average promptly experienced its worst week since
the Depression. Recently, when Congress has wanted to consult a Treasury
secretary, it has sometimes called in Robert Rubin, a Clinton-era figure
whose reputation on Wall Street is impeccable. The fact that Rubin, who
is now a private banker, has emerged as a powerful influence in this crisis
tells you something about the limits to the power of a newly active government.
But it also should remind the president to keep a wary eye on his man at
Treasury. The writer is a member of the editorial page staff. (c) 2001
The Washington Post Company DON'T BUY *ANYTHING* BUT FOOD, WATER, GAS MASKS
(AND YOGURT FROM TALIBANISTAN) UNTIL THERE IS WORLD PEACE! SHOW YOUR CONVICTIONS!
DO NOT *BUY* ANYTHING! From: NY-Transfer-News@tania.blythe-systems.com
(NY-Transfer-News@tania.blythe-systems.com ) Subject: DC: Nearly 20,000
marchers for peace include WTC rescuers Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
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) Subject: Did an Israeli Tech Firm Have a 2-Hour Warning of WTC Attack?
Newsgroups: alt.activism , alt.conspiracy , alt.conspiracy.spy , alt.politics
, alt.war View this article only Date: 2001-10-01 14:36:20 PST Did an Israeli
Tech Firm Have a 2-Hour Warning of WTC Attack? Via NY Transfer News * All
the News That Doesn't Fit [The real news is buried in the middle of the
article under the heading "Instant-Message Warnings." So far, we have only
seen this report on NewsFactor; it has not been publsihed elsewhere that
we have found. IF THIS IS TRUE, and not just more rumor and smoke, it would
certainly explain the FBI arrests of Israelis in New Jersey. If this is
an accurate report, the US's peerless "intelligence" and law enforcement
agencies are probably scrambling around right now, very quietly looking
into possible false-flag recruitment by the Mossad for an operation whose
timing even they could not predict with absolute certainty. ] source -
NewsFactor, September 27, 2001 (via Yahoo) or: Senator Wants National Guard-type
IT Corps; IM Firm Says It Was Warned of Attacks By Jay Lyman, www.NewsFactor.com
Citing the severe stress on the nation's communications and technology
infrastructure brought by the September 11th terrorist attacks, U.S. Senator
Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) is proposing a National Guard-style corps of volunteer
information-technology professionals and equipment to be ready for trouble.
Wyden, chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on Science, Technology and Space,
announced his proposed tech corps on the Senate floor Wednesday and is
planning to meet with government agencies and technology firms next week
to promote the idea. "As we seek to prevent future disasters, we must still
prepare to meet them," Wyden told the other senators. "I believe the technology
professionals of this nation, like all Americans, are ready to answer the
call and do their part," Wyden said. "The formation of a National Emergency
Technology Guard will give them that chance and ensure greater safety and
stability for our communities and our citizens in the coming days." *******************************************************************
Instant-Message Warnings
************************
While Wyden's proposed technology corps will focus on dealing with
a natural disaster or attack after it happens, executives at Odigo, an
instant messaging company in Israel, said that there was advanced warning
of the recent terrorist attacks via IMs to employees. Odigo vice president
of marketing Alex Diamandis told NewsFactor that two people at Odigo's
Israeli offices received instant messages regarding the attacks about two
hours before they happened. While Diamandis said he could not discuss the
nature or content of the messages, Diamandis said that Israeli and U.S.
officials were notified and that investigators interviewed Odigo employees
a day or two after the attacks. ********************************************************************
Crippling Effect Meanwhile, Wyden, who has planned hearings on the matter
for the science subcommittee next week, said the September 11th attacks
on U.S. airliners and landmarks "severely challenged" the communications
infrastructure of New York, Washington, D.C., and the rest of the country.
"Wireless telephone networks were severely overloaded and crashed," Wyden
said. "Wireless Internet access was suspended. Telephone lines were cut
and communications for people literally in communities around the East
Coast of the United States came to a standstill." Wyden added: "Even immediate
communications needs of rescue workers, victims, families and aid groups
were a struggle to coordinate. The New York Times drew a conclusion that
I strongly agree with: there need to be new ways to set up emergency information
systems." Bolstering Tech Readiness Wyden spokeswoman Lisa Raasch told
NewsFactor Network the idea is still being fleshed out, but that the senator
had already met with some heads of the high-tech industry, adding that
she understood the idea had been "quite well received." "The idea is that
especially when communication is critical to rescue and response, we should
make sure there is a reliable backbone and infrastructure there so the
important things that need to be done, can be done," Raasch said. A statement
from Wyden said a national volunteer organization of trained and well-coordinated
units of IT professionals from leading technology companies ought to be
in a position to stand ready with designated computers, satellite dishes,
wireless communicators and other equipment to quickly re-create and repair
compromised communications and technology infrastructures. Calling on Companies
Raasch told NewsFactor that Wyden planned to meet with a number of companies
including Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT - news) and AOL (NYSE: AOL - news) to
recruit support for the National Emergency Technology (NET) Guard. "It
is a volunteer notion in as much as companies would be asked to provide
resources both in equipment and personnel," she said. Wyden's proposal
comes as a number of security experts, federal officials and lawmakers
warn that the U.S. and its infrastructure are not prepared for a cyber
attack. Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT) technology group director
Rich Pethia testified Wednesday before U.S. House committee members, telling
them the spread of the Nimda computer virus demonstrates how vulnerable
the Internet and technology infrastructure is to attack. =================================================================
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